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COMSUBBBS Posts: 2672 Location: New Jersey | Subject: Ohio class in Mid-East And she surfaces too. In a rare announcement, the US military said a guided missile submarine has arrived in the Middle East, a message of deterrence clearly directed at regional adversaries as the Biden administration tries to avoid a broader conflict amid the Israel-Hamas war. US Central Command said on social media Sunday that an Ohio-class submarine was entering its area of responsibility. A picture posted with the announcement appeared to show the sub in the Suez Canal northeast of Cairo. The social media post did not name the sub, but the US Navy has four Ohio-class guided missile submarines, or SSGNs, which are former ballistic missile subs converted to fire Tomahawk cruise missiles rather than nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles. Each SSGN can carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, 50% more than US guided-missile destroyers pack and almost four times what the US Navy’s newest attack subs are armed with. Each Tomahawk can carry up to a 1,000-pound high-explosive warhead. “SSGNs can deliver a lot of firepower very rapidly,” said Carl Schuster, a former director of operations at the US Pacific Command’s Joint Intelligence Center told CNN in 2021. The magnitude of that firepower was shown in March 2011, when the guided missile sub USS Florida fired almost 100 Tomahawks against targets in Libya during Operation Odyssey Dawn. The attack marked the first time the SSGNs were used in combat. The military rarely announces the movements or operations of its fleet of ballistic and guided missile subs. Instead, the nuclear-powered vessels operate in near-complete secrecy. | ||
Tom McNulty |
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Master and Commander Posts: 1455 | Subject: RE: Ohio class in Mid-East Part of me would suggest not making this public. We have the surface Navy there already which is a deterrent. Let them fear what they don't know. | ||
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Master and Commander Posts: 1796 Location: Albany, GA. | Subject: RE: Ohio class in Mid-East I would agree with Tom, secrecy is key to submarine ops. Why in heck would you tell them what to look for? | ||
JrKrup, Skimmer |
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Master and Commander Posts: 1324 Location: Oxnard, CA | Subject: RE: Ohio class in Mid-East This reminds me of the German attitude off the Normandy coast on June 5th, the day before D-Day. They saw nothing, but empty sea, and that gave them confidence. But the morning of June 6th, D-Day itself, the fog lifted revealing nothing but floating metal. As one German officer said, "My God, there aren't that many ships in the entire world." To have clear seas gives confidence that the enemy is no where to be seen. To have a submarine suddenly appear, one that has the destructive power of our SSBN or SSGN, - the show of force - then have that ship disappear just as quick, gives a very uneasy feeling. If one submarine is there, how many more are there? | ||
GaryKC |
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COMSUBBBS Posts: 3673 Location: Kansas City Missouri | Subject: RE: Ohio class in Mid-East Wait a minute, no one from any submarine bbs world wide was interviewed to determine the correct middle east combat strategy to deploy in late 2023. What are they thinking? Beau has words on Ohio Edited by GaryKC 2023-11-07 5:13 AM | ||
Coyote |
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Master and Commander Posts: 1011 Location: NE Florida | Subject: RE: Ohio class in Mid-East Went thru the Suez recently on a cruise ship. Captain was ticked that Egypt required a pilot on-board and two tugboats (one ahead, one astern) to pass thru the canal. The ship pays for these required 'services". Since everyone associated with the canal knows you're there, you might as well tell everyone - then submerge in the Red Sea and return to normal. Coyote | ||