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Thomas Courtien

Posted 2007-09-27 2:34 AM (#7866)

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Subject: Navy Buildings from Google Earth

September 27, 2007 - NY Times
Navy to Mask Swastika Look of Barracks in California
By CAROLYN MARSHALL
The Navy plans to spend $600,000 for “camouflage” landscaping and rooftop adjustments so that 1960s-era barracks at the Naval Base Coronado near San Diego will no longer look like a Nazi swastika from the air.

The resemblance went unnoticed by the public for decades until it was spotted in aerial views on Google Earth.

But Navy officials said they became aware of it shortly after the 1967 groundbreaking, and had decided not to do anything.

“There was no reason to redo the buildings because they were in use,” a spokeswoman for the base, Angelic Dolan, said. She added that the buildings were in a no-fly zone that is off limits to commercial airlines, so most people would not see them from the air.

“You have to realize back in the ’60s we did not have the Internet,” Ms. Dolan said. “We don’t want to offend anyone, and we don’t want to be associated with the symbol.”

The Navy’s plans were reported Monday in The San Diego Union-Tribune.

The Anti-Defamation League in San Diego has objected to the shape of the buildings.

“We told the Navy this was an incredibly inappropriate shape for a structure on a military installation,” said Morris S. Casuto, regional director of the organization. He added, however, that his group “never ascribed evil intent to the structures’ design.”

Mr. Casuto praised the Navy for recognizing the problem and “doing the right thing.”

The $600,000 for the changes is included in the Navy’s approved 2008 budget.

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donmac

Posted 2007-09-27 5:09 PM (#7881 - in reply to #7866)

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Posts: 121

Location: Western Washington State

Subject: Swastika definitions

Info on symbol "Swastika"

http://www.radioliberty.com/Symbolsandtheirmeaning.html
above page has some explantions ..........

http://www.wtamu.edu/~bcaruthers/symbols.html
From this web page above is this definition:
The Swastika In India, the swastika is a symbol of happiness and represents the sun.
The swastika is used also by the Navajo Indians as a design device. It was also used
on the arm patch of the 45th Division of the U.S. Army during World War II. The
swastika was used by Rudyard Kipling in the 1930s. Its universal meaning was changed
from one of happiness to one of fear and terror when it was adopted and adapted - the
swastika design was flopped to face right—by the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in
Germany during the 1930s. As a result, when the swastika is viewed today— particularly
in the context of the Holocaust—the symbol makes the blood run cold. The swastika
evokes opposite meanings in Bombay and in Jerusalem.

And here are some other posted quotes from google search:

The swastika was widely used here in the southwest prior to it's affiliation with Nazi boneheads.
The Navajo nation also used it as a symbol for balance & the Hopi people used it to represent the
four directions of the wind. There are several buildings that have it displayed inside & out, such
as the Kimo Theater in Albuquerque (ABQ!), and the Shafer building in a town called Mountainair.
In Arizona, it was displayed on highway markers up until 1942. In Glendale, CA it is still on over
900 lampposts around town.

Actually, Hitler got the swastika from Norse culture. It was the Norse rune known as Mundilfari,
which represented raw power, immoderate, uncontroled power, and represented one who was
creative but violent. It was the same, pointing either to the right or left, and was a favorite
rune displayed by chieftens.
To the Hopi, it was a representation of what is commenly known as the medicine wheel.

Stoops

Posted 2007-09-27 7:01 PM (#7882 - in reply to #7866)

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Posts: 1405

Location: Houston, TX (Best state in the US)

Subject: RE: Navy Buildings from Google Earth

Thomas Courtien - 2007-09-27 2:34 AM

September 27, 2007 - NY Times
Navy to Mask Swastika Look of Barracks in California
By CAROLYN MARSHALL
The Navy plans to spend $600,000 for “camouflage” landscaping and rooftop adjustments so that 1960s-era barracks at the Naval Base Coronado near San Diego will no longer look like a Nazi swastika from the air.

Good grief! As if this was even worth considering.....what a disgrace to think we are going to spend money on such a petty piece of crap!

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