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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Minot, Maine | Subject: WTH?
Cannot right this photo for some reason, but you get the picture.
FEMALES now wear our old dress blues? Travesty! |
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 560
Location: Minot, Maine | Subject: ---
Edited by JohnBay 2017-12-23 2:28 PM
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1890
Location: Patterson, New York | Subject: RE: WTH?
Actually, I saw that recently on some news story. Females in dress blue jumpers with pin stripes.
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 715
Location: Conway, NH | Subject: RE: WTH?
This is really not new. Women started wearing crakerjacks in 2014 for evaluation. The first female boot grad class that wore them was a year ago. |
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 3667
Location: Kansas City Missouri | Subject: RE: WTH?
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=97983
Yep, and for the record, I like women, always have.
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Plankowner
Posts: 9164
Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: WTH?
Something. I didn't know or even think about was how many recruits went through Basic every year. 30,000 to 40,000! I'm astounded. That is about 1/2 the size of the whole British Army. |
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 2974
Location: Liverpool, England | Subject: RE: WTH?
Ric,
Just an observation and nothing more. That figure for the Army is about right, due to not as many recruit figures as in recent years. But unlike the Germans (sans their u-boats & their jets that can't fly) plus others not paying their NATO tabs, we are a fully paid up member. If the proverbial hits the fan and things do get serious, all those on reserve will be recalled, and those that have never been anywhere or done anything will be conscripted if need be. That would be a massive culture shock for the many who just take the military for granted, but all's fair in love and war so they say.
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1814
Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: WTH?
What is with the black tee shirts? Good to see they are still issuing 13 button trousers though. Also, where is the neckerchief? Do you reckon they teach them how to properly roll it and tie a square knot?
Another thought, the females will at least fill out the oversize jumpers that the Navy has been issuing male sailors. Now about that white hat..... some old swabby needs to train the entire fleet how to roll that thing so it looks decent.
Steamboat sends
Edited by steamboat 2017-12-24 5:27 AM
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 715
Location: Conway, NH | Subject: RE: WTH?
steamboat - 2017-12-24 8:24 AM
What is with the black tee shirts? Good to see they are still issuing 13 button trousers though. Also, where is the neckerchief? Do you reckon they teach them how to properly roll it and tie a square knot?
Another thought, the females will at least fill out the oversize jumpers that the Navy has been issuing male sailors. Now about that white hat..... some old swabby needs to train the entire fleet how to roll that thing so it looks decent.
Steamboat sends
That was just a fitting. So the uniform was not complete nor as meant to be warn.
A lot of things have changed since you were a rag hat. Rolling the white hat is a big no-no.
As for tying the neckerchief they may have gotten back to teaching the proper tying, but when crackerjack came back I had to show a lot of sailors how to do it. |
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 715
Location: Conway, NH | Subject: RE: WTH?
Ric - 2017-12-23 11:24 PM
Something. I didn't know or even think about was how many recruits went through Basic every year. 30,000 to 40,000! I'm astounded. That is about 1/2 the size of the whole British Army.
Just think how many went through GLakes alone in the late sixties and seventies. When I attended my son's graduation in '93 the building looked empty compared to my graduation in '69. I estimate nearly 60,000/year and how many more went to San Diego and Orlando. |
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 932
Location: Milford, PA | Subject: RE: WTH?
The only comments I'll offer is that they should bring back the flat hat for winter wear and use the Dixie cup for summer wear.
And double-breasted P coats are a must.
Flat hats, a DB P coat, black turtle neck and double rolled neckerchief is sharp.
To say nothing about properly fitted "dragonized" Gabardine "Tailor mades" and Wellington boots. |
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Plankowner
Posts: 9164
Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: WTH?
I went to San Diego in '64 and the place was packed and that was before the big build up. We "lingered " around for 11 weeks before kicked loose into the fleet. Within months they were bumping them out in 8. |
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Plankowner
Posts: 9164
Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: WTH?
Oh, I believe it. Same here the kids still have to register for the draft. If needed there will be some wimpy little whiners about that. |
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Plankowner
Posts: 9164
Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: WTH?
Rolling the white hat is a big no-no.
Yet look at the Navy honor guards and details with extreme rolled hats. Seen many like that at funerals, even at Arlington! |
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Plankowner
Posts: 9164
Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: WTH?
Never worn the flat hat. They had just discontinued them before I went in. Thumbs up on the rest!!! |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1454
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When I was issued my Flat Hat, the first thing I did was to place a book of matches in the front brim to raise the bow, so to speak. It looked great until I was told you could only wear it in the 1st Naval District, which was Boston. Rat's! I really liked the hat. |
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 715
Location: Conway, NH | Subject: RE: WTH?
Ric - 2017-12-24 9:52 AM
Yet look at the Navy honor guards and details with extreme rolled hats. Seen many like that at funerals, even at Arlington!
And look at all the other uniform "violations" required by the detachment. They are the exception, not the rule. |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1814
Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: WTH?
Violation or not they certainly need to do something to sharpen up the "Boot" image of the way even salty E1-6 wear the dress uniform now. They would look really disgraceful next to Marine and Army dress uniforms. And yes, I also have noticed the rolled white hats worn by Navy honor guards. They look really sharp. I reckon we should not complain too loud (as if us old vets make a difference) or they will drastically change the dress uniform along with the work and "undress" has been changed. Is it just my opinion, or are there folks didling with Navy uniforms who have never worn one? Last drastic change they said they did a survey..... well you can phrase questions to get the answers you want.... look at last election polls as an example!
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 3667
Location: Kansas City Missouri | Subject: RE: WTH?
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