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At random: "They weren't just hull numbers, they were our home addresses. Now the old neighborhood is torn down and gone and all that is left are memories." -- Dick Murphy, USS Tiru SS 416
Anybody Know?
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Gil
Posted 2020-06-28 8:09 PM (#97959)
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Subject: Anybody Know?

This is from Facebook:   We're working on the story of the Guitarro (SSN-665). Can someone help settle a small detail? I have conflicting input about the distance from shore required to discharge water collected in the onboard retention tanks (OBRTs). Here's the sentence as written:

"The OBRTs were holding tanks for the effluent collected from the primary loop of the reactor plant; as a rule, such water was not discharged until the boat was out to sea, at least 200 miles from the coastline."

Others have said that the value is not 200 miles but 12 miles. Another has said 3 miles. What is the right answer?

Keep in mind, the answer has to be correct for the year 1969, the year that the Guitarro sank. Thank you!






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Ric
Posted 2020-06-28 9:26 PM (#97960 - in reply to #97959)


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Subject: RE: Anybody Know?

Don't know. We didn't have them.
Tom McNulty
Posted 2020-06-29 6:42 AM (#97961 - in reply to #97959)


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Subject: RE: Anybody Know?

Maybe the confusion is due to the different country's laws. I do know when returning to Holy Loch it wasn't 200 miles. Believe it was just prior to the Faroes.
geno
Posted 2020-06-29 8:28 AM (#97962 - in reply to #97959)
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Location: Vista, Ca.
Subject: RE: Anybody Know?

This is a total guess since I was not a nuc. Us torpedomen kinda kept to the round end. But could it have anything to do with a particular country's view of "international" waters. For the longest time America had the 3 mile limit whereas most of Europe had 12. And I believe there were some like Russia who insisted on 200. As I said, purely a guess.
Gil
Posted 2020-07-02 12:58 PM (#97992 - in reply to #97959)
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Subject: RE: Anybody Know?

Thanks for the responses, but the Facebook post seems to provide the same responses as here.
Pedro
Posted 2020-07-04 12:51 PM (#98018 - in reply to #97959)


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Location: Liverpool, England
Subject: RE: Anybody Know?

Since the late 20th century the "12-mile limit" has become almost universally accepted. The United Kingdom extended its territorial waters from three to twelve nautical miles (22 km) as late as 1987. The only reason Royal Navy sailors were aware of this is that once past the territorial waters limits outward bound they were able to draw their duty-frees such as cigarettes, tobacco, cigars, beer, and other goodies from the bonded stores.

Once we separate from the EU in December this year another nautical territorial problem will arise. European countries such as Germany, Holland, Denmark, France and Spain will no longer be allowed to fish our waters from that date. This is bound to be met by defiance by these nations which will have to be challenged by the Royal Navy and it Fishery Protection Fleet. This will be done by impounding their vessels, equipment and catches until they get the idea it will never be tolerated. I imagine it will be similar to the Icelandic Cod Wars of the 1950s when little Iceland won its rights to territorial fishing limits from the UK.

Pedro
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