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At random: United States Submarines destroyed a total of 1,314 Japanese ships during World War II, including one battleship, eight aircraft carriers, fifteen cruisers, forty-two destroyers, and twenty-three submarines. Against this score, fifty-two U.S. Submarines were lost.
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dex armstrong
Posted 2008-04-12 12:32 PM (#14920)


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Subject: For Nancy Yockey Bonar

Nancy, At one point you were about to publish a Submarine Force based cookbook or were in the process of gathering background material for such a book. (A) Was it ever published? If so,(B) Could you tell me where to write to obtain a copy and what it would cost to obtain it (to include postage and handling). I have been looking for your announcement. Your fan DEX
nancy
Posted 2008-04-13 12:18 PM (#14954 - in reply to #14920)


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Location: Medina, OH
Subject: RE: For Nancy Yockey Bonar

Dex and all:

Am in a dismayed state over "Cooking Under Water" Culinary Specialists, U.S. Submarine Force, but continue to work to overcome a major hurdle: the chief culinary specialist, Norfolk, who agreed to obtain "local" recipes from CSes on submarines, has backed out of project. He was the sole person I was working with as he wanted it that way. (In hindsight, my mistake) Three professional chefs, who volunteered aboard three different subs as a part of the Adopt-a-Ship program, remain aboard as volunteer contributors.

Book is about 50% written (began research more than two years ago, writing as I went along), including quotes from more than 50 former submariners like yourself, and more to come. Took book cover prototype to Norfolk in May when I met with chief CS and toured USS Minn/SP. He was proud as punch about the book.  In all fairness, my requests for information from him put too much on his plate.

As you know, portion of proceeds from sales of this first-ever submarine cookbook to be marketed to the general public are to benefit USSVI Scholarship Fund as well as submarine museums that sell it. This is NOT a "cash cow" for me but, rather, my way of educating the public about The Silent Service without giving away "secrets." The already written dedication is to past, present and future submariners and families, including the more than 4,000 submariners who are resting their oars. And, of course, my thanks for inspiration from my late brother and members of the submarine community through the online forums and former Salmon crew members.

Might be a stretch to say this, but do believe the true power for a submarine is the morale-boosting food from cooks, mess cooks, culinary specialists. Yes, know power was diesel, is nuclear, but....

Am in a catch-22. Original encouragement for book came from a top Navy PAO at Pentagon who linked me with NAVSUP which, in turn, linked me with chief CS. Pentagon PAO is now in Iraq. Sub PAOs, Norfolk, won't lend a hand until I get a publisher. I need to use a literary agent to get to a publisher and to market the book. Can't get an agent until I have sample recipes to go into each of the chapters I've already written. Of course, self-publishing another option as can market book to the Navy/Submarine Force via various channels, then take book sales figures to a traditional publisher.

Book appendix includes, but is not limited to, list of submarine museums, names of lost boats and crew numbers, Q&A from Submarine Warfare, names of today's subs, sample menus, example of food order to fit menus, submarine termonology, and, for children, how to make a submarine out of a bottle. Also hope to include with the book a DVD showing daily life on sub and focusing on galley and mess deck -- food service in general.

Any suggestions from anyone? Where do I go to plead my case? BY "go" -- willing to travel to wherever, to whomever. Need to do this without "stepping on anyone's toes."

I'm in process of writing a "case for support" and seeking verbal support for the project (not endorsement) from submariners and submarine-related entities.

Meanwhile, I'd encourage submariners, especially DBFers, to obtain a copy of "Submarine Cuisine," published by the Submarine Research Center. Lots of copy about diesel sub food service, and about 50 recipes from the old days. Book is sold primarily to submarine entities such as at boat reunions. Also offered SRC online.

Do look forward to your advice, Dex, as well as from others in the forum.  And thanks for asking about the book. Must post this info in two other forums as a courtesy to those who've provided quotes and who've asked to be put on the "buy" list.

Nancy

dex armstrong
Posted 2008-04-13 12:55 PM (#14956 - in reply to #14920)


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Subject: RE: For Nancy Yockey Bonar

Nancy, Please remember I have no basis to comment on anything that takes place on a nuke boat....just wonderful memories of the great smokeboat stew burners. Those culinary magicians were in a constant race with putrification...spoilage....and rotten spot surgery. I remember a cook who baked a cake for an Execs selection for command and wrote an inscription in red icing using a contraption made out of a rubber glove and and an old Parker pen barrel. Submarine cooks could carve flank steaks off pier rats and turn out something the crew would fight for "seconds on". Morale? They WERE Morale....A good cook could handle anything the Great Unwashed could hand out. We had the BEST...CS1(SS) Rodney A. Johnson...aka RAT Johnson....His favorite expression..."You don't like it? Eat down the goddam street.".He would accompany this comment by grabbing your plate and knocking it out in the nearest shapshooter bucket. "Hey RAT...My Mothyer didn't make it like this." "Son I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but everyone with the exception of you, knows your Mom is a lousy cook...I've talked to interstate truck drivers that take the bypass around your town just to keep from having to smell your Mother's cooking." "Hey RAT...what'n the hell is this." "I call it SPAM surprise." Nancy, The cook was the only member of the crew who saw every lad, every day....THE CREWS MESS was our dining hall, classroom, game room. collective chewing out location, the place where we listened to the news on Radio Moscow, Icelandic Radio, Voice of America, BBC World Service and WCKY Cincinnati OHIO...It was a card palace, a place where lies could be told..sea stories listened to and surgeries performed....it was a motion picture theater....a place where you could read, write letters and pass around photos of wives, kids, girlfriends and loose bloomered barmaids....When you came off a long liberty or leave and dropped down the After Battery hatch, tossed your AWOL bag on your rack...you worked your way forward, drew a cup of coffee that would reverse the effects of embalming fluid and had a smiling night baker toss you a piping hot cinnamon bun fresh out of the crews chow incinerator....You knew that those hull numbers that served as your street address. didn't lie...Dammit, you were HOME. DEX
nancy
Posted 2008-04-13 1:00 PM (#14957 - in reply to #14920)


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Location: Medina, OH
Subject: RE: For Nancy Yockey Bonar

Thanks, Dex, for your always fantastic writing. Once again, may use some of your lines.

Please see separate cookbook topic. Really do need your advice and that of others.

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