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Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?
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crystal
Posted 2008-04-18 8:38 AM (#15086)


Master and Commander

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Location: Port Ludlow, WA (the Olympic Penninsula)
Subject: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

O.K. gents, WITHOUT referring to your notes (etal), how many of you can remember the distinctive handle shape (AND color of) the three alarms??? Diving, General and Collision?  I'll start with a color; diving is green - - - and?????????

Edited by crystal 2008-04-18 8:38 AM
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-04-18 8:42 AM (#15088 - in reply to #15086)


Senior Crew

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Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

General is red and I believe round...

Billy Bob
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-04-18 8:55 AM (#15090 - in reply to #15086)


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Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Which leaves Collision as orange and star shaped

Billy Bob
crystal
Posted 2008-04-18 9:08 AM (#15091 - in reply to #15086)


Master and Commander

Posts: 2191

Location: Port Ludlow, WA (the Olympic Penninsula)
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

No sig on your card yet Bill!

Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-04-18 9:29 AM (#15093 - in reply to #15091)


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Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Okay, okay...General is orange and Collision is red...

Billy Bob (holding tightly to my 'fish)
TSpoon
Posted 2008-04-18 9:44 AM (#15096 - in reply to #15086)
Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 561

Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Diving - green and square
General - yellow and round
Collision - red and star

Now to add to the question, when did they acquire these shapes? Aboard the Pampanito they are all round.

T.Spoon, DBF
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-04-18 9:50 AM (#15097 - in reply to #15096)


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Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

HEY!!! That's what I was just gonna say...had to look this up as I couldn't hit the rack before I got this siggie...

..."The red, yellow, and green boxes over the ballast control panel are the ship's alarms."...(copied from some sub history site)

Billy Bob (feelin' a little dink)

visit this site for more alarm info...

http://www.policeinterceptor.com/navysounds.htm

Edited by Launcher Lary 2008-04-18 10:09 AM
SOB490
Posted 2008-04-18 10:27 AM (#15102 - in reply to #15096)


Old Salt

Posts: 489

Location: San Freakcisco CA area
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

TSpoon - 2008-04-18 7:44 AM
Now to add to the question, when did they acquire these shapes? Aboard the Pampanito they are all round.


I can tell you this much - we are looking at scans of PAMPANITO's 1945 Mare Island overhaul drawings for another reason and the specified colors (green-yellow-red) and shapes (all round) are as you describe, so the change in shape had to come after the summer of 1945 - but when, I don't have the foggiest. The different shapes were in place in 1956 when I got to my first boat, so ... sometime between 45 and 56 to start.

I used to suspect that the handles were round because the real ones got stripped off during the reserve fleet days and the only replacements available are what PAMPANITO now has - but as I said, the 1945 drawings show round on all three.

ANOTHER QUESTION (probably DBFs only) Which of these three alarms cound NOT be activated from the bridge? How was (were) it (they) activated?

Edited by SOB490 2008-04-18 10:41 AM
Curt
Posted 2008-04-18 10:52 AM (#15105 - in reply to #15086)


Old Salt

Posts: 330

Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

How about, "Power Plant Casualty."

It is a "Pink Cross."

Make up your own funny retort...

MTOW
Posted 2008-04-18 11:06 AM (#15106 - in reply to #15086)
Mess cooking

Posts: 17

Location: Fresno, CA
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

That Chief is your cross to bear.....

MTOW
Coyote
Posted 2008-04-18 11:59 AM (#15108 - in reply to #15086)


Master and Commander

Posts: 1011

Location: NE Florida
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

I only recall the diving alarm on the bridge. All the alarms could be sounded from the conning tower.

DBF
Coyote
Park Dallis
Posted 2008-04-18 12:25 PM (#15109 - in reply to #15086)


Old Salt

Posts: 419

Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Diving and Collision alarm can be sounded from the bridge.
Warshot
Posted 2008-04-18 12:30 PM (#15110 - in reply to #15086)
WWII Sub Vet

Posts: 135

Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

All I remember about alarms was that the collision alarm was a LOUD FRIGGEN SIREN. I think the Navy used the same standard issue for all ships regardless of size.

If you weren't expecting it you might have to change your skivvies later.

Warshot
dex armstrong
Posted 2008-04-18 2:19 PM (#15115 - in reply to #15086)


COMSUBBBS

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Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

John Diving Alarm Green and a round ball on handle,( two blasts followed by "DIVE,DIVE" was the signal to jerk the cork and put a saltwater blanket over the boat, three blasts followed by "SURFACE SURFACE SURFACE" meant hit the roof. five blasts followed by "AIRLESS SURFACE-AIRLESS SURFACE" was a signal to put full dive on the planes, open the vents, then put full rise on so that when you hit the roof you would broach at an angle that would allow the tanks to drain then you would shut the vents to trap air in the tanks, then open the conning tower hatch, turn on the ten pound blower and clear the remaining water out of the tanks. The General Alarm...the one used was square and I believe yellow....Like Warshot said, the sonuvabitch was so damn loud the earwax would shoot out of your ears....the alarm was followed by BATTLE STATIONS SURFACE, BATTLE STATIONS SURFACE OR BATTLE STATIONS TORPEDO< BATTLE STATIONS TORPEDO SET CONDITION BAKER......There was Also STAND BY TO REPEL BOARDERS where all the animals went topside armed to the teeth. Please give credit for age and cranial cobwebs. DEX
Curt
Posted 2008-04-19 2:16 AM (#15137 - in reply to #15115)


Old Salt

Posts: 330

Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

OK...

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarms_on_submarines

miss lumpy bumps
Posted 2008-04-19 10:00 AM (#15149 - in reply to #15086)


COMSUBBBS

Posts: 2540

Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)? OK...

Being the good submariner sailor's wife that I am...did a little research on my own...but that isn't what has me posting...my source...WIKIPEDIA...don't get me wrong, I know that "sometimes" it isn't exactly the most reliable of places...BUT GET THIS...the particular page I used is "IN NEED OF AN UPDATE BY AN EXPERT"...!!!

So this is what they say about the alarms:

Collision/Flooding Alarm-red cog shape
Diving-green square
General alarm-yellow OVAL
Propulsion plant-pink T shape
Missile Emergency-orange crown shape
Missile Jettison-blue crown

Now if any of these are incorrect...now is the time for "someone" to fix it.

SOB490
Posted 2008-04-20 1:53 PM (#15192 - in reply to #15109)


Old Salt

Posts: 489

Location: San Freakcisco CA area
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Park Dallis - 2008-04-18 10:25 AM

Diving and Collision alarm can be sounded from the bridge.


Give that man the proverbial nickle cigar! The OOD had to holler down into the Conning Tower for the helmsman to hit the General Quarters alarm.
Hugh
Posted 2008-04-23 2:10 PM (#15274 - in reply to #15086)


Senior Crew

Posts: 160

Location: Hillsboro, OR
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

The bridge suitcase only has a collision alarm.

Pretty sure of this as I never got in the s**ts for hitting any other alarm while rigging the bridge for surface.

How would you describe the smell when manning the bridge after a long time in the Med?

"very old shrimp cocktail" comes to mind...
Darrin
Posted 2008-04-23 5:17 PM (#15282 - in reply to #15086)


Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 561

Location: Belleview, Fl
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

The bridge box had the collision alarm along with a rudder indicator and a compass and the switches for the 1MC and the 7 MC also

Edited by Darrin 2008-04-23 5:18 PM
SOB490
Posted 2008-04-25 10:59 AM (#15353 - in reply to #15282)


Old Salt

Posts: 489

Location: San Freakcisco CA area
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

>>>The bridge box

You must be talking nuke boat -

The diesel boats (at least thru GUPPY-IIIs, don't know about the B-Girls) had permanently wired fixtures --

The dynamic speaker had a crescent-shaped toggle plate - one way 7MC and the other was 1MC.

Anybody remember which was which?

Of if two crewmen were on both the 1 and 7MC simultaneously, which had precedence?

There was one sound powered phone jack for the bridge talker during maneuvering watch.

Anyone remember the circuit designation?

The diving and collision alarms were the only ones that had connections on the bridge.

The OOD had to holler down to the helmsman in the Conning Tower to sound General Quarters.

We had a rudder angle indicator and used the TBT repeater to check our heading, true bearings, etc.

The right handle of the TBT had a buzzer thumbswitch used to signal the TDC operator when the TBT was on target's bearing.

There was also a 120VDC signal lamp electrical socket that was turned on/off in the Conning Tower.

The only other control device on the bridge was a lever to sound ship's whistle.
Roger Ramjet
Posted 2008-04-28 1:22 PM (#15436 - in reply to #15086)


Mess cooking

Posts: 35

Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

Geez,
I read the Wikipedia (That word alone is enough to cause you to wonder, at least a little) and saw "Propulsion Plant Casualty" alarm! The sound is described as a "Slow Jump Tone" - now if THAT doesn't make you wonder MORE than a little, there is something wrong with you! A slow "jump" tone? As in "If yer feelin' froggy fella, well then "Jump"? Or Hey baby, jump on this! (And don't be slow about it either!) How about if you jump off a cliff and fall slowly (hey, it could happen) and you yelled some sort of 'tone' --- sort of like--- "sssss---hhhhh---iiiiiii-----ttttt" as you fell... Would THAT be a "slow jump tone"?

Then to top it off guess what color the handle is??? Com'on you've already figured out it's a nuke alarm, what color,, huh? Well, it's PINK! That's right, PINK---FREAKIN' PINK! And it's shaped like a "T"! T is for T*tt*es! And nukes wonder why on earth diesel boat sailors look at them oddly... Pink...... good grief.... thank heaven Cool Bob hasn't gotten here yet.. We'd have to call 911 to have him revived..
Ramjet (I'm right in a tizzy my-own-damn-self!)
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-04-29 12:59 PM (#15461 - in reply to #15436)


Senior Crew

Posts: 192

Subject: Oh wild and wooly one...

...here, take a listen to this, it's what I had to hear whenever them fellas aft of frame 85 wanted to play with their toys, this is the pink alarm noise...

http://www.policeinterceptor.com/sounds/625ppalm.wav

...if that's not enough, click here and take a listen to these (all I got to listen to was 616 AN/WIC sounds, as I was on 3 different 616 class boats)...

http://www.policeinterceptor.com/navysounds.htm

Billy Bob

Edited by Launcher Lary 2008-04-29 1:01 PM
John Bay
Posted 2008-04-29 2:18 PM (#15462 - in reply to #15086)
Old Salt

Posts: 359

Location: Saco, Maine
Subject: RE: Alarm Handle Shapes (Colors)?

How about this arrangement? To the lower right of the helmsman...





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