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We have two of three Japanese midget subs. One was found beached on the sand shore the day after the attack on Pearl. Another was found near the entrance to the harbor around 1960. I saw it on blocks along the pier when I was stationed there. A third sub radioed a successful attack on the American fleet but it didn't return after the attack. Where is it? I saw a picture of what appeared to be a periscope sticking up in the harbor behind what looks like a torpedo wake. I never heard of any search of the harbor itself to see if the sub is down there. Anybody know anything about a search of the harbor for the missing third sub? |
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Senior Crew
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Location: Chunky, MS | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub?
Didn't they show that sub in the show "Secrets of Pearl Harbor" on Discovery/The Military Channel? It seems like I recall Dennis Haysbert diving on a Japanese Midget Sub and them commenting on it still having some kind of active torpedo onboard or something.
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Master and Commander
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snakeyez - 2008-06-28 10:53 AM
Didn't they show that sub in the show "Secrets of Pearl Harbor" on Discovery/The Military Channel? It seems like I recall Dennis Haysbert diving on a Japanese Midget Sub and them commenting on it still having some kind of active torpedo onboard or something.
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That was the one that the U.S.S.Ward sank near the entrance to the harbor with gunfire. It's location is known,but there is still one midget sub unaccounted for as far as I know. |
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Alexandria, Virginia | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub?
Send an E-Mail to Jim Christley....Jim is the GO TO man regarding ANYTHING to do with naval history, particularly submarines. Extremely knowledgable and if he tells you something, consider it golden. Remarkable man and the kind of gentlemen you wished you had riden with and shared stories withy over hot jamoke in the merssdeck of a "once upon a time" boat. DEX |
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Plankowner
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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub? Answer Maybe
Looks like it was buried in a land fill.
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Ric - 2008-06-28 1:13 PM
Looks like it was buried in a land fill.
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Nope, still one unacounted for. One on the Beach in 1941, One found in 2002 that had been sunk by the Ward, the one sunk by the Mongahan later buried in a landfill, and the one sunk at the harbor enterance. One is still missing. |
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Plankowner
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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub? Answer Maybe
Three of the five Pearl Harbor midget submarines have been salvaged, Ha-19 immediately after the attack and the one sunk by USS Monaghan a few days later. The third was found off the harbor entrance in 1960. Monaghan's submarine was buried in a landfill shortly after its recovery. The other two are on exhibit, Ha-19 at Fredericksburg, Texas, and the one found in 1960 at Eta Jima, Japan. |
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Ric - 2008-06-28 3:05 PM
Three of the five Pearl Harbor midget submarines have been salvaged, Ha-19 immediately after the attack and the one sunk by USS Monaghan a few days later. The third was found off the harbor entrance in 1960. Monaghan's submarine was buried in a landfill shortly after its recovery. The other two are on exhibit, Ha-19 at Fredericksburg, Texas, and the one found in 1960 at Eta Jima, Japan.
We can account for 4 of the 5 subs that were involved in the attack on Pearl Harbor. I recall seeing a photo of a picture that showed a torpedo that was thought to be released from a plane (The plane was not in the picture) but someone said that the picture showed a periscope wake(known as a feather) at a distance behind the torpedo. The claim was it was fire from a midget sub. It could have been doctored I suppose but there isn't any proof of that and it doesn;t seem feasible that someone would go through all that trouble. The contension is that the 5th midget sub is somewhere in Pearl Harbor. I seem to recall that a depth charge was dropped in the harbor during the attack. The other possibility was that it never made it into the harbor and is lost somewhere on the ocean floor. I think that a scan of the harbor would show if there is a sun down there and should be done to document the case. If it is there then it should be designated a military burial site. |
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Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub? Answer Maybe
The one that is now at the Nimitz museum in Fredricksburg, TX was the one that was towed all over the US on a trailer, eventually placed on display at the Sub Base in Key west, and is now in Texas. I hope they did some restoration on it, because it was in pretty sad condition when in Key West.
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Visalia, Ca. | Subject: RE: Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub? Answer Maybe
When I ws doing Westpacs in the late 70s and mid-80s, there was a Japanese mini-sub on display near the main Barracks complex on Naval Station Guam. Where did we catch that one?
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Where Is The THid Japanese Midget Sub?
