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At random: "Without courage, you might as well not be in it. You’ve got to have courage--moral courage, physical courage--and honor. Honor means telling the truth even when it might not be to your advantage" Retired Capt. Charles W. Rush Jr. (85), Navy Cross recipient, when asked to give advice to Chiefs and Junior Officers in today's submarine service.
An Obit that should be read by all of us
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Pig
Posted 2008-07-11 6:08 PM (#17513)
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Subject: An Obit that should be read by all of us

TROUP, John Anthony Rose, VADM, RN, Ret., 86, died on July 8, 2008. Vice-Admiral Sir Tony was born into a naval family on July 18 1921. He was educated at HMS Worcester, the nautical training college on the Thames, and entered Dartmouth in 1936. His father had been boxing champion at Dartmouth and insisted that Tony should take up the sport (he consented, but was regularly beaten and grew to hate it). After service in the cruiser Cornwall and the destroyer Active in the Far East and the Atlantic, Troup volunteered for submarines in 1941. He joined the newly built Turbulent, commanded by Commander "Tubby" Linton, which was part of the Fighting 10th Submarine Flotilla. In 1942, after 254 days in the Mediterranean, nearly half of them submerged, Turbulent was estimated to have sunk a cruiser, a destroyer, a U-boat, and 28 supply ships totaling 100,000 tons; it had been depth charged more than 250 times. Troup was mentioned in dispatches while in Turbulent, but had left to do his "perisher" course for submarine commanders when Linton was lost on its next patrol. His first DSC was announced on the same page of the London Gazette as Linton's posthumous VC. He became the youngest-ever submarine captain when he took command, at 21 years 10 months, of the training submarine H32 in June 1943. Just a few months later he was given command of Strongbow, based at Trincomalee, Ceylon. Operations had been largely restricted to patrols, air-sea rescue and the landing and recovery of agents; but Troup sank the 800-ton coaster Toso Maru off Phuket with a single torpedo on his first eastern patrol. He then sank or drove ashore nine junks, a tug and two lighters with gunfire and by boarding and placing demolition charges. The next patrol, however, brought mixed results. On October 11, in the Malacca Strait, Troup attacked a merchant ship which was being escorted by two sub-chasers, firing five torpedoes at a range of 3,000 yards. Two exploded prematurely and the others missed; then, before he could renew the attack, he found himself in shallow water. Next day Troup encountered two Japanese submarines in quick succession. He fired four torpedoes at Ro113 from 2,500 yards; all of them missed. Half an hour later two more were launched at Ro115 from 4,500 yards; these too missed. Reloading his one remaining bow torpedo, Troup sank the 1,185-ton cargo ship Manryo Maru at close range. A week later he was ordered to take up position off the Nicobar Islands for air-sea rescue duties during a carrier-borne air attack by the Eastern Fleet. As the raid ended, he fired his stern torpedo into the harbour, where it was caught by torpedo nets. In November Troup patrolled the west coast of Sumatra, sinking a tug and a lighter by gunfire and carrying out a successful re-supply operation to coast watchers. On the last day of the month he found and sank three junks close inshore, claiming 33 hits with 36 rounds from his 3-in gun while coming under shell-fire from shore batteries. Troup made one last patrol in the same seas at the end of the year, then sailed to the southern Malacca Strait. A couple of weeks later he sank a junk and was depth-charged in response, though there was no damage. Three days later he was less lucky: Strongbow was trapped in shallow water by several anti-submarine vessels and subjected to close and effective depth charge attack. When Troup took tea after the war with Commander Tetsunoke Moriama, his Japanese opponent told him that after eight hours of continual bombardment he was sure that Strongbow had been sunk. Troup admitted: "They gave me a very bad time, and I was considerably dusted up." Many of Strongbow's rivets had popped and the pressure hull had collapsed inwards; the main engines had been blown off their beds; the air compressors had been smashed and the torpedoes jammed in the tubes. He crept into a known minefield, where he knew he would not be pursued, then nursed his boat for 1,000 miles across the Indian Ocean to Trincomalee. There the base engineers pronounced the boat unfit for further service. Troup was awarded a Bar to an earlier DSC. After Troup had limped home in Strongbow, he commanded three more submarines in the post-war years: Tantalus, Trump and Tally Ho. He was second-in-command of the Royal Navy's first angled-deck aircraft carrier, Victorious, from 1956 to 1959, and then held three influential appointments as naval assistant to the First Sea Lord, captain of the 3rd Submarine Squadron, and Captain of the Fleet in 1964-65. He returned to the Far East as captain of the amphibious assault ship Intrepid, then became Flag Officer Sea Training, demanding the highest standards of efficiency in all the ships sent to him at Portland. As Commander Far East Fleet Troup took the salute at a steam past to mark the end of the Anglo-Malaysian defence pact and the start of the Five-Power Defence Agreement in 1971. When he was appointed Flag Officer Submarines, aged 50, he insisted on making an inaugural ascent in the new underwater escape tower at Gosport. His last appointment was as Flag Officer Scotland and Northern Ireland. For his retirement Troup acquired a crofthouse at Portchuillin, which enabled him to indulge his passion for golf at the Lochcarron club. He also owned a series of boats called Seil, the last and smallest of which was a Devon yawl which he sailed until his children banned him after he fell overboard. He was elected to the Royal Yacht Squadron in 1964. Troup joined the board of the shipbuilder Vosper Thornycroft and, from 1979 to 1988, was defense adviser to Scicon International. He was president of the Submarine Old Comrades' Association. Tony Troup, who was appointed KCB in 1975, wanted no memorial service and left no papers, but recorded an oral history for the Imperial War Museum. He married, in 1943, Joy Gordon-Smith. The marriage was dissolved in 1952, and the next year he married Cordelia Hope, who survives him with two sons and a daughter of the first marriage and two sons and a daughter of the second.

Don Gentry
Posted 2008-07-12 4:58 PM (#17531 - in reply to #17513)


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Location: Renton, WA
Subject: RE: An Obit that should be read by all of us

Agreed Pig!

"Strongbow was trapped in shallow water by several anti-submarine vessels and subjected to close and effective depth charge attack. When Troup took tea after the war with Commander Tetsunoke Moriama, his Japanese opponent told him that after eight hours of continual bombardment he was sure that Strongbow had been sunk. Troup admitted: "They gave me a very bad time, and I was considerably dusted up." Many of Strongbow's rivets had popped and the pressure hull had collapsed inwards; the main engines had been blown off their beds; the air compressors had been smashed and the torpedoes jammed in the tubes. He crept into a known minefield, where he knew he would not be pursued, then nursed his boat for 1,000 miles across the Indian Ocean to Trincomalee. There the base engineers pronounced the boat unfit for further service. Troup was awarded a Bar to an earlier DSC. After Troup had limped home in Strongbow, he commanded three more submarines in the post-war years: "

Flapper
Posted 2008-07-13 10:47 PM (#17549 - in reply to #17513)


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Location: Tucson AZ
Subject: Wait a moment! don't we have a Linton that posts here?

from the obit:
After service in the cruiser Cornwall and the destroyer Active in theFar East and the Atlantic, Troup volunteered for submarines in 1941. Hejoined the newly built Turbulent, commanded by Commander "Tubby"Linton, which was part of the Fighting 10th Submarine Flotilla. In1942, after 254 days in the Mediterranean, nearly half of themsubmerged, Turbulent was estimated to have sunk a cruiser, a destroyer,a U-boat, and 28 supply ships totaling 100,000 tons; it had been depthcharged more than 250 times. Troup was mentioned in dispatches while inTurbulent, but had left to do his "perisher" course for submarinecommanders when Linton was lost on its next patrol.

Linton: is this a relation?
Pig
Posted 2008-07-14 12:30 PM (#17551 - in reply to #17513)
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Posts: 5024

Location: Gulfport, MS
Subject: RE: An Obit that should be read by all of us

FLapper - Not a relation (as far as I know). If it was our navy it would have said someing like "He joined Morton on Wahoo. He left Wahoo for PCO school just prior to Morton being lost on the next patrol" Tubby Linton is an icon in RN submarine history... some great books out there about his exploits.
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