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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: What's an A/S vessel?
This seems to be an enemy ship that the Sterlet (and others) did battle against several times.
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Colton, NY | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Navy+ship+designations&btnG=Search
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Alexandria, Virginia | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Used to be a Submarine Tender like the USS ORION (AS-18)...FULTON, HOWARD W. GILMORE, SPERRY, L.Y. SPEARS, BUSHNELL etc....but it's probab;y something rlse now, the way the Navy is into change. DEX |
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Senior Crew
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Location: Chunky, MS | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
In another context, it could have stood for Anti-Submarine vessel, like a destroyer or subchaser. |
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Citrus County FL | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Auxiliary Sail. A sailboat with an auxiliary motor. In the Pacific they usually calls 'em a junk. |
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Master and Commander
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Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Common sence would tell you that a submarine would be battling against an ANTI-SUBMARINE vessel.
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Master and Commander
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Location: Rockingham Western Australia | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
steamboat - 2008-08-20 4:53 AM
Common sence would tell you that a submarine would be battling against an ANTI-SUBMARINE vessel.
Steamboat Sends
"Common Sense" naaahh don't think that's a concept that will catch on!!!! |
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Master and Commander
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Location: Tucson AZ | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
If you're seeing this terminology in patrol reports, and it's connected with torpedo attacks I'd say the 'anti submarine' crowd is correct.
On the other hand, if the term is used in the context of surfaced gun battles, then I'd go for Whalen's 'Auxilliary / Sail' conjecture. Junks and other similar 'little guys' weren't worth expending precious (and limited) torpedoes on, when a couple of rounds from any of the boat's deck guns could easily take them out.
Edited by Flapper 2008-08-19 3:11 PM
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Not new, Dex. This would have been WWII.
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: I'm guessing it does mean anti-submarine -
This is what I'm reading: "Either this escort failed to spot the submarine, or purposely delayed the kill until the three A/S vessels farther distant could close in."
And: "Either the pickets were unduly alarmed by the sweep, or the Japanese coast guards grasped the opportunity to test their A/S. system."
The man that wrote this book really likes to begin sentences with, "Either."
Thanks guys,
Cora
Edited by Corabelle 2008-08-19 9:52 PM
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Citrus County FL | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
CONTEXT is everything. It's "anti-submarine" for sure. |
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Colton, NY | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
AS
http://www.google.com/search?q=Navy+ship+designations&btnG=Search
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A/S
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare
http://www.google.com/search?q=anti+submarine+warfare&btnG=Search
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Alexandria, Virginia | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
OK Folks...If you look down the list of ship designators in the website given above, AS stands for Submarine tender (Just like I said)...Where were you guys when the big ole thing you were nestled up against had an AS painted before her hull numbers below the foc'sul hawse pipe forward of her housed anchors. Corabelle, a tender is a floating office and repair facility...It sure as hell isn't am anti-submarine platform. DEX
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Master and Commander
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Location: Tucson AZ | Subject: Hello, Mr Dexter? Context is everything ...
dex armstrong - 2008-08-21 1:07 PM
OK Folks...If you look down the list of ship designators in the website given above, AS stands for Submarine tender (Just like I said)...Where were you guys when the big ole thing you were nestled up against had an AS painted before her hull numbers below the foc'sul hawse pipe forward of her housed anchors. Corabelle, a tender is a floating office and repair facility...It sure as hell isn't am anti-submarine platform.
DEX
... I think you haven't followed all the twists and turns in this message thread.
The context of the 'A/S' designator [ note the slash '/' between the 'A' and the 'S' ] being discussed was WW II battle action, involving Sterlet and other boats, describing enemy 'A/S' ships coming after them.
I (and several other responders) don't believe enemy sub tenders would be attempting to chase down US subs, therefore the 'A/S' appears to be short-hand for 'anti-submarine' activity.
You, of course, are absolutely correct about the meaning of 'AS' relative to USN hull designators. All of us submareeners are fully aware that 'AS' is shorthand for "Cumshaw is king! But beware of the MAAs."
Edited by Flapper 2008-08-21 2:15 PM
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Citrus County FL | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
dex armstrong - 2008-08-21 1:07 PM OK Folks...If you look down the list of ship designators in the website given above, AS stands for Submarine tender (Just like I said)...Where were you guys when the big ole thing you were nestled up against had an AS painted before her hull numbers below the foc'sul hawse pipe forward of her housed anchors. Corabelle, a tender is a floating office and repair facility...It sure as hell isn't am anti-submarine platform. DEX Cora quoted from some sub patrol report: "This is what I'm reading: "Either this escort failed to spot the submarine, or purposely delayed the kill until the three A/S vessels farther distant could close in." " Jeez, Dex, I'd like to hear more about that battle -- an escort and three submarine tenders closing in! Must have been exciting! What were the submarine tenders gonna do to the sub? Throw coffee cups at it? By-the-way, Dex, the big ole things did not have an "AS" by the hull number -- all they had was an "S" -- sometimes painted before, sometimes after the hull number.
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Master and Commander
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Location: Tucson AZ | Subject: Heh heh
Almost neck and neck, Whalen. |
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Summerville, SC | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Who's Walen neckin with? This thread is almost like "Who's on 1st?"   |
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Old Salt
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Location: San Freakcisco CA area | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
Whalen, as usual, you are hopelessly lost -- the A/S vessel was an AS --- they were going to attack STERLET with coffee grounds and broken crankshafts!
Now, if the A/S vessel had been an ASR, that would mean that the crew was all USNR - or in STERLET's case, Japanese Navy Reserve!
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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Alexandria, Virginia | Subject: RE: What's an A/S vessel?
I throw in the towel.... the A/S considering the content of the text has to be "Anti-Submarine"...Now let me go micro-wave this thirty pound Butterball crow. Corabelle has more sense than it takes to listen to me...How bout Argentinian sailboats?...DEX |
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What's an A/S vessel?
