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Another Russian accident!
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jerrydf
Posted 2008-11-08 6:13 PM (#21296)


Crew

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Location: Ormond Beach, Florida
Subject: Another Russian accident!

Accident aboard Russian submarine kills 20
1. 21 others reportedly injured on nuclear-powered sub in Pacific Ocean
World Blog: Moscow, Russia

MOSCOW - At least 20 people died and 21 were injured in an accident on board a Russian nuclear-powered submarine in the Pacific Ocean, a Russian naval spokesman said on Sunday.
Radiation levels on board were normal, he said.
Russia’s navy has suffered a string of fatal accidents, including the loss of the Kursk nuclear submarine in the Barents Sea in August 2000. All 118 sailors aboard died.

“More than 20 people were killed on a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean during routine testing as a result of the unsanctioned functioning of the fire extinguishing systems,” the navy spokesman, Igor Dygalo, said by telephone.
Dygalo did not give the name of the submarine or specify where it was located. There were 208 people on board at the time of Saturday’s accident, some of them from a shipbuilding company, he added.
“The reactor section (of the submarine) is working properly,” the spokesman said. “The radiation levels on the ship are normal.”
A Russian destroyer, the Admiral Tributs, was providing assistance and taking some of the injured crew from the submarine to port, Dygalo said.
He did not say where the ships were but the Tributs is normally based at Vladivostok, Russia’s main Far Eastern naval port, according to Russian media.
President Dmitry Medvedev has been informed about the accident, Russian news agencies reported.
The state-owned RIA news agency quoted a highly placed official in the Pacific Fleet as saying the accident happened in the bow of the submarine.
In August 2005, seven Russian sailors were freed with help from a British rescue crew after three days trapped inside an AS-28 mini-submarine 600 feet down in the Pacific with dwindling air supplies.

They need to take lessons from us!

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Edited by jerrydf 2008-11-08 6:14 PM
Ralph Luther
Posted 2008-11-08 6:49 PM (#21297 - in reply to #21296)
COMSUBBBS

Posts: 6180

Location: Summerville, SC
Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

Hopes and prayers are there for them for the Lord to watch over and comfort.

Edited by Ralph Luther 2008-11-08 6:49 PM
Land Lubber
Posted 2008-11-10 2:15 PM (#21360 - in reply to #21296)
Old Salt

Posts: 402

Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

Makes you wonder what their maintenance has been like. I understand a lot of the Russian boats have been a state of disrepair for some time. I imagine the boats that have stayed in active service have probably not been maintained in perfect condition.
One of the saddest photos I've seen was of the Kirsk after she was raised. In the photo you could see the rows of escape pods that were designed to save her crew but disaster struck so fast they could not be employed.
All men that rode the boats, no matter what type, are brave men.
Steve
Ric
Posted 2008-11-10 3:44 PM (#21363 - in reply to #21360)


Plankowner

Posts: 9165

Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map.
Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

Land Lubber - 2008-11-10 2:15 PM
...In the photo you could see the rows of escape pods that were designed to save her crew but disaster struck so fast they could not be employed....


What escape pods? I don't remember any photo with "rows" of escape pods. I do remember seeing photos showing the rows of cruise missile launching tubes lining the hull.
Park Dallis
Posted 2008-11-10 5:21 PM (#21366 - in reply to #21296)


Old Salt

Posts: 419

Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

I mentioned this to my brother last night particularly the part about having an automatic system charged to dump a firefighting gas, that won't sustain life, into an occupied compartment.

He said, "They value their equipment more than their sailors."
Land Lubber
Posted 2008-11-12 3:00 PM (#21450 - in reply to #21363)
Old Salt

Posts: 402

Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

Hey Ric, You are right. I took another look. I had read something on the Internet that indicated the objects were escape pods.
Sheesh am I embarrassed!
Donald L. Johnson
Posted 2008-11-13 9:50 PM (#21481 - in reply to #21296)


Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 602

Location: Visalia, Ca.
Subject: RE: Another Russian accident!

What bothers me about that fire-fighting system is that it uses FREON to snuff the fire.

I remember several episodes on the Seadragon where we had freon leaks,a nd levels got so high in the boat that we had to put the Smoking Lamp out throughout the boat, because a lit cigarette was hot enough to turn the freon into deadly poison phosgene gas, which the smoker would then inhale into his lungs.

'Course, I s'pose with all the other deadly gases generated by a fire in the machinery spaces, a little phosgene wouldn't make that much difference, as long as the emergency breathing masks worked.

And as somebody else mentioned, the Ruskies have never shown the same concern for the safety and well-being of their sailors as the U.S. Navy has.



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