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Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates
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Ric
Posted 2008-11-12 2:50 PM (#21448)


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Subject: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Michael Evans, Defence Editor and Rob Crilly

Pirates caught redhanded by one of Her Majesty’s warships after trying to hijack a cargo ship off Somalia made the grave mistake of opening fire on two Royal Navy assault craft packed with commandos armed with machineguns and SA80 rifles.

In the ensuing gunfight, two Somali pirates in a Yemeni-registered fishing dhow were killed, and a third pirate, believed to be a Yemeni, suffered injuries and subsequently died. It was the first time the Royal Navy had been engaged in a fatal shoot-out on the high seas in living memory.

By the time the Royal Marines boarded the pirates’ vessel, the enemy had lost the will to fight and surrendered quietly. The Royal Navy described the boarding as “compliant”.

Yesterday’s dramatic confrontation, the latest in a series of piracy incidents in the Gulf of Aden in recent months, took place 60 miles south of the Yemeni coast and involved the Royal Navy Type 22 frigate, HMS Cumberland, which has a Royal Marine unit on board, on short-notice standby to engage in “non-compliant boardings”.
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HMS Cumberland, on anti-piracy partol as part of a Nato maritime force, detected the dhow which was towing a skiff, and identified it as a vessel which had been involved in an attack on the Danish-registered MV Powerful earlier yesterday. The pirates had opened fire on the cargo boat with assault rifles.

Under rules of engagement which allows the Royal Navy to intervene when pirates are positively identified, the commandos were dispatched from the frigate in rigid-raider craft and sped towards the pirates’ dhow. The Ministry of Defence said the Marines circled the pirates’ boat to try and persuade them to stop.

As they approached, however, several of the pirates, a mixed crew of Somalis and Yemenis, swung their assault rifles in their direction and opened fire. The MoD said the Royal Marines returned fire “in self defence”, and then boarded the dhow — a stolen Yemeni-registered fishing vessel.

The commandos found guns and other “paraphernalia” on board the dhow and a handful of terrified pirates. The MoD said it was unclear whether the Yemeni who died had been shot by the Marines or was wounded from a previous incident involving the pirates.

The gun battle was in stark contrast to the Royal Navy’s last encounter with a boatful of armed men - when crew members of HMS Cornwall, also a Type 22 frigate, patrolling in the Gulf in rigid raiders, were surrounded by heavily armed Iranian Revolutionary Guards in March last year. Eight sailors, including a woman, Leading Seaman Faye Turney, and seven Marines were taken hostage without a shot being fired, and detained for 13 days. The Commons Defence Committee described the incident as “a national embarrassment”.

Yesterday’s battle signalled a new policy of maximum robustness for the Royal Navy on the high seas. Captain Mike Davis-Marks, a senior spokesman for the Navy, said: “This is bound to have an impact on pirates who for the last two years have been getting away with seizing vessels and receiving large ransoms. Now suddenly there’s the threat of death and this may force them to think again, but they are determined people, so we’ll have to see.”

The Russians claimed a helicopter based on their own frigate Neustrashimy had also taken part in yesterday’s battle, though the Royal Navy knew nothing about it. The Royal Marine commandos who boarded the pirates’ dhow were supported by a Lynx helicopter from HMS Cumberland, the MoD said.




dex armstrong
Posted 2008-11-12 3:00 PM (#21451 - in reply to #21448)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

BRAVO....Now there's a post, to set off fireworks in your soul....Great way to deal with international trash attempting to highjack ships on the high seas. DEX
Park Dallis
Posted 2008-11-12 3:15 PM (#21452 - in reply to #21448)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Nothing like the, "...threat of death," to cause you to reflect on your actions!
chiefjoe
Posted 2008-11-13 3:57 AM (#21455 - in reply to #21448)
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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Even if it does not deter them, it will definitely reduce recidivism.

Joe P
Jim M.
Posted 2008-11-13 4:10 AM (#21456 - in reply to #21452)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Park Dallis - 2008-11-12 3:15 PM

Nothing like the, "...threat of death," to cause you to reflect on your actions!


Don't forget..nothing like some p***ed off Royal Marines to ruin your day either.
John396
Posted 2008-11-13 2:16 PM (#21465 - in reply to #21448)
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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

It was the first time the Royal Navy had been engaged in a fatal shoot-out on the high seas in living memory.
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What about the Falkland Is.?
Don Gentry
Posted 2008-11-13 2:20 PM (#21466 - in reply to #21455)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

chiefjoe - 2008-11-13 1:57 AM Even if it does not deter them, it will definitely reduce recidivism. Joe P

Dang, that's a big word for a submarine board... and it's even spelt correctly

John396
Posted 2008-11-13 2:21 PM (#21467 - in reply to #21448)
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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

If any one is interested in modern day pirates. (Pirates Aboard) is a good read, written by Klaus Hympendahl. John396
Blue from West Oz
Posted 2008-11-13 3:33 PM (#21469 - in reply to #21465)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

John396 - 2008-11-14 4:16 AM

It was the first time the Royal Navy had been engaged in a fatal shoot-out on the high seas in living memory.
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What about the Falkland Is.?


Yeah, that was my thoughts too.

Maybe the author of the article is under the age of 26?

Blue *_*
Ralph Luther
Posted 2008-11-13 4:01 PM (#21470 - in reply to #21448)
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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

When the Navies were fired upon by these "pirates" they should have been blown out of the water. As it is now they have to dick around with some internatational court and it will takes years. Mean while the other pirates continue to do their thing. Blow the bums out of the water and the others might take notice rather quickly.
Flapper
Posted 2008-11-13 4:43 PM (#21472 - in reply to #21470)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Ralph Luther - 2008-11-13 5:01 PMWhen the Navies were fired upon by these "pirates" they should have been blown out of the water. As it is now they have to dick around with some internatational court and it will takes years. Mean while the other pirates continue to do their thing. Blow the bums out of the water and the others might take notice rather quickly.

Amen! Testify brother! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Simply eliminate on sight every identified pirate and put their rust buckets on the bottom.
JrKrup, Skimmer
Posted 2008-11-13 8:49 PM (#21474 - in reply to #21472)


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Location: Oxnard, CA
Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Sight them!
Shoot them!
Sink them!
Shut up!

Who else NEEDs TO KNOW about the incident?

Edited by JrKrup, Skimmer 2008-11-13 8:50 PM
Don Gentry
Posted 2008-11-13 8:55 PM (#21476 - in reply to #21474)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Amen Bro Krup....
Donald L. Johnson
Posted 2008-11-13 8:58 PM (#21477 - in reply to #21470)


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Subject: RE: Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Piracy used to be a capital offense under maritime law. Courts-martial aboard the HMS Cumberland, followed by very public execution - hang them from the yard-arm for all their cohorts to see, with TV coverage by CNN and Al-Jazeera. Or would that be considered too barbaric by the international legal community?
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