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COMSUBBBS
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Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: Coupla more questions:
My brother wrote that he went to sub school in Groton, Connecticut. His military records say that he went to sub school in New London, Connecticut. Who is right? Bear in mind that while we were working together on this project, he often said, "I can't remember...it (emphasis) was over sixty years ago!" However, he did (emphasis, again) bring up some remarkable memories.
When he graduated from radio school, he's listed as "Qualified as a Striker for RM/3C." What, exactly, does a 'striker' do? And how long do they do it? Is this where they wear the white stripe around the top of their sleeve at the shoulder? Seems as though we've had this discussion before, but when I get two (or three) different responses fron y'all, I get confused. My take is that the man is 'waiting,' or 'hoping' to attain that rate. Is he studying to take a test for this rate? Can he wear the patch for that rate while he's still a 'stiker?' I know that's over simplification.
That's enough for now. I know I'll have more tomorrow.
Cora
Edited by Corabelle 2009-04-29 8:04 AM
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Plankowner
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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: Coupla more questions:
Cora,
The sub base is in Groton but most people say they went to sub school at New London which is on the other side of the Thames River and the major town where most of us took liberty, went to movies and got our entertainment. So, either is or could be correct.
A "striker" is some one who is an E-3 or below and still in training for his job.. Once you become a third class, E-4), you are considered a "graduate" and able to do your job competently.
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Master and Commander
Posts: 2254
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks | Subject: RE: The Official Name is:
Corabelle - 2009-04-28 10:55 PM
My brother wrote that he went to sub school in Groton, Connecticut. His military records say that he went to sub school in New London, Connecticut. Who is right? Bear in mind that while we were working together on this project, he often said, "I can't remember...it (emphasis) was over sixty years ago!" However, he did (emphasis, again) bring up some remarkable memories.
When he graduated from radio school, he's listed as a "Qualified as a Striker for RM/3C. What, exactly, does a 'striker' do? And how long do they do it? Is this where they wear the white stripe around the top of their sleeve at the shoulder? Seems as though we've had this discussion before, but when I get two (or three) different responses fron y'all, I get confused. My take is that the man is 'waiting,' or 'hoping' to attain that rate. Is he studying to take a test for this rate? Can he wear the patch for that rate while he's still a 'stiker?' I know that's over simplification.
That's enough for now. I know I'll have more tomorrow.
Cora
Naval Submarine Base New London is the United States Navy's primary submarine base, the "Home of the Submarine Force", and "the Submarine Capital of the World". In 1868, the State of Connecticut gave the Navy 112 acres (0.5 km²) of land along the Thames River to build a Naval Station. Due to a lack of federal funding, it was not until 1872 that two brick buildings and a "T" shaped pier were constructed and officially declared a Navy Yard. This new yard was primarily used as a coaling station by Atlantic Fleet small craft.
On October 13, 1915, the monitor Ozark, a submarine tender, and 4 submarines arrived in Groton, CT. With the war effort in Europe and the Atlantic in full swing, additional submarines and support craft arrived the following year and the facility was named as the Navy's first Submarine Base. Although physically located in Groton, CT, the base had their main offices and housing in the larger city of New London, hence was christened as Naval Submarine Base New London. Following World War I, the Navy established schools and training facilities at the base.
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 2673
Location: New Jersey | Subject: Actually
The navy was lost and for the past 60-75 or so years thought they were in NLON, when in actuality they were in Groton.
When I went to Sub School in '61 it was in NLON. In the new navy the school is now in Groton.
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Master and Commander
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Geez Ric, you make New London sound like some kind of resort. |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1107
Location: Tucson AZ | Subject: More than you wanted to know about 'strikers'...
Strikers are typically union members who band together to stop work for an employer because of low wages or poor job conditions.
Seriously, Corabelle, this source gives an excellent run-down on Navy enlisted ranks, rates and ratings. An excerpt explaining what 'strikers' are follows:
Non rate
A non rate (not rated) is one serving in pay grade E-1 to E-3. The non rate is further subdivided by a general career path, aviation (airman), deck (seaman), engineering(fireman), construction (construction-man), and hospital (hospital-man). Many bluejackets enter advanced training schools following recruit training to complete the entry level requirements for a career field. Graduates are designated in an occupational specialty even though they have not achieved Petty Officer status of pay grade E-4 and up. MSSN J. P. Jones has passed the specific career field qualifications for entry into the general rating of Mess Management Specialist, but is still not a petty officer. MS denotes the career field of Mess Management Specialist and SN is the abbreviation for Seaman, the non rated E-3 pay grade.
Sailors who go directly to a base, station or ship without specialized school training following recruit training are encouraged to select a career field. Through correspondence courses provided for self study and on-the-job training, they mayqualify for entry into a rating. This path is called"striking for rate." A seaman working in the deck department of a ship will by work assignment find herself in training for the deck rating of Boatswain Mate. Many "strikers" will venture into other departments to become Yeoman, Damage Controlman or Gunner's mate as openings occur. Many technical rating fields are restricted to formal school graduates and thereby closed to strikers. Having experienced the width and depth of Navy life, most"strikers" become excellent petty officers.
The notorious Dex, for example, was taken under the wing of the torpedo gang and thus worked his way to becoming a TM striker as an E-3 (seaman, or SN).
Edited by Flapper 2009-04-29 5:29 PM
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 2561
Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: RE: More than you wanted to know about 'strikers'...
Did he wear the torpedoman insignia under the crow?
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Master and Commander
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Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: More than you wanted to know about 'strikers'...
Cora, you don't wear a "crow" until making E-4 or third Class Petty Officer. In my day ("60-64) a striker wore a small rating emblem above the 2 or 3 small stripes signifyinf E-2 or E-3. Are you comfused yet? It is easier to explain if you look at achart of Navy rates and ratings.
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