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Land Lubber |
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Old Salt Posts: 402 | Subject: War Patrol I was just reading about USS Louisville (SSN-724) and an artical stated that during operation Destert Storm she conducted the first war patrol by a submarine since WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Louisville_(SSN-724) Does this mean the crew can wear the combat patrol pin? Take Care, Steve | ||
Ric |
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Plankowner Posts: 9165 Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: War Patrol I do believe that several boats were awarded it during Korea. USS Perch (SSP-313) USS Pickerel (SS-524) | ||
rjs2005 |
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Old Salt Posts: 338 Location: Oak Island, NC | Subject: RE: War Patrol To the best of my knowledge, the Combat Patrol Pin was not authorized for USS Louisville for operations during Desert Storm. There was a lot of discussion on that very issue, but I'm pretty sure in the end, they were not authorized the pin. I support that decision, not to take away anything from what Louisville or any other SSN did in support of Desert Shield/Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom/Operation Enduring Freedom or any other op in support on the war on terror, but there's no way to compare SSN ops against those enemies with little to no armed opposition (against the boat, that is) with WWII boat operations against an equally hostile force shooting back at you. | ||
Jim M. |
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Great Sage of the Sea Posts: 877 | Subject: RE: War Patrol The PITTSBURGH was involved in Desert Storm as well. On display (don't have the image handy right now..but will post later) at one point was the battle flag of the PITTSBURGH at the Sub Force Museum in New London.. did the LOUISVILLE or other boats have battle flags after the Gulf War?? | ||
Blue from West Oz |
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Master and Commander Posts: 2357 | Subject: RE: War Patrol Land Lubber - 2009-09-10 4:44 AM I was just reading about USS Louisville (SSN-724) and an artical stated that during operation Destert Storm she conducted the first war patrol by a submarine since WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Louisville_(SSN-724) Does this mean the crew can wear the combat patrol pin? Take Care, Steve I guess you really are referring to USN Submarines only due to the POMS sending a few Submarines, Nuclear and Diesel, down to The Falklands during that war in 1982 ......that's where a Pommy submarine actually sank a ship. Just nitpicking with the Facts. Blue *_* | ||
Ric |
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Plankowner Posts: 9165 Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: War Patrol You are absolutely correct Blue but the discussion is about the American Combat Patrol Pin I'm sure that many Navies in WW II issued and in other conflicts have something like it they could and can award. It is pretty well acknowledged that the Falklands sinking is just one of a number of submarine sinkings by various countries since WW II though the highest loss of life and was the largest warship sunk since WW II. | ||
Blue from West Oz |
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Master and Commander Posts: 2357 | Subject: Not Quite Correct.... Ric - 2009-09-10 11:15 PM You are absolutely correct Blue but the discussion is about the American Combat Patrol Pin I'm sure that many Navies in WW II issued and in other conflicts have something like it they could and can award. It is pretty well acknowledged that the Falklands sinking is just one of a number of submarine sinkings by various countries since WW II though the highest loss of life and was the largest warship sunk since WW II. The statement was "...the first war patrol since WWII by a submarine..." Later the comment about the Combat Patrol Pin was added. My point was regarding the first section of the sentence. Cheers Blue....still nitpicking with the facts! here you go... "I was just reading about USS Louisville (SSN-724) and an artical stated that during operation Destert Storm she conducted the first war patrol by a submarine since WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Louisville_(SSN-724) Does this mean the crew can wear the combat patrol pin?" Take Care, Steve Edited by Blue from West Oz 2009-09-10 2:41 PM | ||
Ric |
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Plankowner Posts: 9165 Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... ...continuing picking your nit...:-) I can see where you are coming from. I took it meaning an American sub. You are looking at it from a broader point of view. You are correct of course. | ||
Blue from West Oz |
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Master and Commander Posts: 2357 | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... Ric - 2009-09-11 5:00 AM ...continuing picking your nit...:-) I can see where you are coming from. I took it meaning an American sub. You are looking at it from a broader point of view. You are correct of course. Now if only everyone else took your point of view my life would be so much easier! lol I was looking at it purely by the statement. Had he said, "....the first American submarine to conduct a war patrol since WWII...." then I would have kept my big mouth shut! *_* Cheers mate Blue *_* | ||
Land Lubber |
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Old Salt Posts: 402 | Subject: RE: War Patrol rjs2005 - 2009-09-10 5:57 AM there's no way to compare SSN ops against those enemies with little to no armed opposition (against the boat, that is) with WWII boat operations against an equally hostile force shooting back at you. I agree with that 100 % And Blue, I would say the Falklands was truly more of a naval war than our envolvement off Iraq. I was curious about the pin thogh. Thanks guys. Take Care, Steve | ||
Land Lubber |
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Old Salt Posts: 402 | Subject: RE: War Patrol Land Lubber - 2009-09-10 3:13 PM rjs2005 - 2009-09-10 5:57 AM there's no way to compare SSN ops against those enemies with little to no armed opposition (against the boat, that is) with WWII boat operations against an equally hostile force shooting back at you. I agree with that 100 % And Blue, I would say the Falklands was truly more of a naval war than our envolvement off Iraq. I was curious about the pin though. Thanks guys. Take Care, Steve Edited by Land Lubber 2009-09-10 3:17 PM | ||
iPOD |
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Master and Commander Posts: 1247 Location: Rockingham Western Australia | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... Blue from West Oz - 2009-09-11 5:04 AM ...." then I would have kept my big mouth shut! *_* Cheers mate Blue *_* Yeah right!!! God it's cold here must be Hell freezing over!! | ||
Ric |
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Plankowner Posts: 9165 Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map. | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... I saw him one morning wishing he were dead and not caring what direction he'd gone...LOL | ||
Ralph Luther |
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COMSUBBBS Posts: 6180 Location: Summerville, SC | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... Ric, you couldn't be talking about our Blue now could you? The Choirboy??? Suffering??? | ||
Blue from West Oz |
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Master and Commander Posts: 2357 | Subject: LOL.... Ric - 2009-09-11 5:46 AM I saw him one morning wishing he were dead and not caring what direction he'd gone...LOL Tthere was one direction I needed to make, and that was to pray to the porcelain God, once or twice! Blue *_* | ||
Blue from West Oz |
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Master and Commander Posts: 2357 | Subject: RE: Not Quite Correct.... iPOD - 2009-09-11 5:44 AM God it's cold here must be Hell freezing over!! sheesh POD, you sure are a girlie.....you think this is cold? Try Chicago in their Winter, I did.....and yes, it is cold!! This is 'cool' what we are experiencing....and as Kathy would say on a 2c day,"it's balmy" Blue *_* | ||
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