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Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees
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docbeeghly
Posted 2009-10-06 11:07 AM (#31340)
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Posts: 184

Location: ConroeTexas
Subject: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

I received this from an old Growler shipmate its something we all should know about and do what we can.

Received this and I'm not sure it is true but you may want to look into it yourself.





Subject: PASS THIS TO ALL MILITARY RETIREES



This is true. It is on pages 77, 172, 218, and 434. You have to dig to see the changes. We (retirees) would lose the Medicare for life benefit and would have to pay. We would lose TRICARE as a total care package. We would not be allowed to keep TRICARE so when Obama stands and says if you like what you have you can keep it, he lies.

This is a "Heads Up" on a battle we are facing now and down the road with the new Administration. The Congressional=2 0Budget Office (CBO) has already drafted proposed legislation that would basically reduce our TRICARE for Life benefits to a system whereby we pay deductibles and co-pays up to $6,301 the first year for you and your spouse, with future years being indexed to increase with inflation. What can we do? The article below, obtained from an Air Force Association and written by BG Bob Clements, best describes what we can do. Please read it and check the links for CBO language and do what Bob says-Send this email to every Military Retiree you know and write and email your Congressman often. For those of you that might have voted for "Change", you should do it more than often!

TRICARE FOR LIFE'S FUTURE.... TRICARE For Life was instituted to correct the broken promise that military retirees would receive free healthcare coverage for life and it covers the Medicare co-pay. Now a heavy assault has begun on Veterans'/Retirees' benefits to pay for other programs our President promised during the campaign. An it is a high priority of his administration. The e one item of most interest to Retired Military is in Article 189. If approved by Congress the first assault wave would hit in

2011 and would hit hard. It would initiate cost sharing to require retirees to pay the first $525 of medical cost and 50% of the next $4,725 for a first year cost of $2,888 per person. It would be indexed to increase with inflation. A reason given for this action (for PR effect) is "overuse" by Retiree s. For those of you who are covered by TFL you will want to pay attention

(Below) to what BG Bob Clements has surfaced about the future of TFL. In any case, on page 189 of the Congressional Budget Office report, see the note below on how to get to that spot, there is a strong recommendation to eventually eliminate the program as it is too expensive. Just another move to slight those of us who dedicated much of our adult lives to the defense of our country.

Strongly recommend that you contact your elected officials and register your strong opposition to the elimination of the TFL program. Heads-up from BG Bob Clements,USAF Ret(P38 Bob) The following has been added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site www.cbo.gov/ a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care

(www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925) For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :

1. double click on the above URL

2. click on PDF

3. click on the binoculars

4. do a search for TFL Now here it is folks and I will guarantee if you sit around on your behind and do nothing about it as they bring these options forward this coming year, you will lose one of the best healthcare benefits that the Medicare eligible retired military have.It is short of the promises made that we fought so hard for back in the late 90s and early 2000s but it is still the best healthcare program that anyone in the United States has, bar none. People who are professionals always look for the channel of least resistance when it comes to cutting money out of the Federal and DOD budget. I can tell you this straight on, military retirees are one of those channels of least resistance noted for sitting around, doing nothing, and waiting for ole Joe to do it for them. You had better wake up. Your medical benefits are prime target. If you lose them, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Let me repeat that ... you have nobody to blame but yourself.

The way to secure your benefits is to write to your members of Congress and to keep writing and writing and writing. ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!! Keep repeating=2 0the above statement until you are blue in the face. Now I'm going to make one more statement to all of you younger people out there who are not yet eligible for TRICARE for Life. HEALTH CARE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE DOMINATING FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE. Remember that . . . . it will impact you big time with the utmost in cruelty unless you are fortunate enough to die from a heart attack or get run over by a truck. The service organizations will put20up a fight, but, they will need your help and can't do it by themselves. I hope this makes it clear as to what you can expect if you do nothing. To show you how stupid these professionals can be at times just read the data on the noted sites closely. You will see that in spite of the MTFs (Military Treatment Facility) need to get patients back to keep their doctors busy and the hospitals from going to clinic status, these people from OMB would employ a means to keep retirees from using MTF facilities by charging them a fee for services. How dumb can you get. Even if you are an Obama fan, and believe that changeth cometh, TFL option from OMB will not go away. They need the money they spend on you for other programs for people who produce nothing but votes to keep their boss in office. If you know of anyone who is Retired Military, please forward this on to them. Bob

Remember- TFL is an "Earned Benefit" that's b een granted by a previous Congress.

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crystal
Posted 2009-10-06 12:44 PM (#31344 - in reply to #31340)


Master and Commander

Posts: 2191

Location: Port Ludlow, WA (the Olympic Penninsula)
Subject: RE: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

Here we go again!  Please cease all the rumor postings - PLEASE!!!
Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-10-06 1:39 PM (#31347 - in reply to #31344)
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Posts: 6180

Location: Summerville, SC
Subject: RE: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

I don't know John, have you read pages 77,172,218 and 434 to dispute it? I haven't read the pages and I don't know for sure. I'm not retired so TFL doesn't affect me, but, since the government over the years has been whittling away at the benefits that were promised to the retired folks, it wouldn't surprise me that they would try and eliminate it entirely.
crystal
Posted 2009-10-06 2:02 PM (#31350 - in reply to #31340)


Master and Commander

Posts: 2191

Location: Port Ludlow, WA (the Olympic Penninsula)
Subject: RE: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

Ralph and Doc, this same legitimate source has been posted at least twice before... It is meant to discredit you know who (and I didn't even vote for the guy)...

Edited by crystal 2009-10-06 2:03 PM
Donald L. Johnson
Posted 2009-10-06 2:50 PM (#31352 - in reply to #31340)


Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 602

Location: Visalia, Ca.
Subject: RE: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

Shipmates, this is the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) document that comes out every year, with SUGGESTIONS to the Congress on where they can save money or spend more of it in a particular area. These SUGGESTIONS seldom become part of actual legislation.

It is NOT a part of any of the HEALTH CARE REFORM bills working their way through Congress.

If you want to see what is REALLY in the Bills, go to the Library of Congress site:

http://thomas.loc.gov/

and do a Key-Word search on Health-Care Reform.

NONE of these bills have passed their own house of origin, let alone the other house and become law.

NOTHING is certain until a bill passes and is signed.
And even then, some things may be tied up in the courts for a long time.

There are many real concerns about the Bills now in Congress, and what they contain and will do/not do if they become law. But the discussion is not helped by adding rumor, myth, and other things that are not in the actual bills being debated.

Get the Facts. Read the actual bills. Then consider what is really in them, and make your concerns known to your elected representatives, as they say in Chicago, Early and Often.



Stoops
Posted 2009-10-06 5:17 PM (#31357 - in reply to #31340)
Master and Commander

Posts: 1405

Location: Houston, TX (Best state in the US)
Subject: RE: Medical care for retired submariners, and all retired military retirees

I agree...read the bills....your congressthingies won't and many have already started ridiculing those that do read the bills. (hey, I haven't taken sides in this post....consider it only as civic advice.....ie vote the way you want, but educate yourself and then vote....I trust your judgment.
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