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CPO's that I knew
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Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-10-08 3:30 PM (#31402)
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Subject: CPO's that I knew

Got this from an old Shipmate. Can't say I've seen it before, but, it brought back memories

CPO Standards
Never forget this, a Chief can become an Officer, but an Officer can never become a Chief. We have our standards!
Recollections of a WHITEHAT.
"One thing we weren't aware of at the time, but became evident as life wore on, was that we learned true leadership from the finest examples any lad was ever given, Chief Petty Officers. They were crusty old bastards who had done it all and had been forged into men who had been time tested over more years than a lot of us had time on the planet. The ones I remember wore hydraulic oil stained hats with scratched and dinged-up insignia, faded shirts, some with a Bull Durham tag dangling out of their right-hand pocket or a pipe and tobacco reloads in a worn leather pouch in their hip pockets, and a Zippo that had been everywhere. Some of them came with tattoos on their forearms that would force them to keep their cuffs buttoned at a Methodist picnic.
Most of them were as tough as a boarding house steak. A quality required to survive the life they lived. They were, and always will be, a breed apart from all other residents of Mother Earth. They took eighteen year old idiots and hammered the stupid bastards into sailors.
You knew instinctively it had to be hell on earth to have been born a Chief's kid. God should have given all sons born to Chiefs a return option.
A Chief didn't have to command respect. He got it because there was nothing else you could give them. They were God's designated hitters on earth.
We had Chiefs with fully loaded Submarine Combat Patrol Pins, and combat air crew wings in my day...hard-core bastards who remembered lost mates, and still cursed the cause of their loss...and they were expert at choosing descriptive adjectives and nouns, none of which their mothers would have endorsed.
At the rare times you saw a Chief topside in dress canvas, you saw rows of hard-earned, worn and faded ribbons over his pocket. "Hey Chief, what's that one and that one?" "Oh hell kid, I can't remember. There was a war on. They gave them to us to keep track of the campaigns." "We didn't get a lot of news out where we were. To be honest, we just took their word for it. Hell son, you couldn't pronounce most of the names of the places we went. They're all depth charge survival geedunk." "Listen kid, ribbons don't make you a Sailor." We knew who the heroes were, and in the final analysis that's all that matters.
Many nights, we sat in the after mess deck wrapping ourselves around cups of coffee and listening to their stories. They were light-hearted stories about warm beer shared with their running mates in corrugated metal sheds at resupply depots where the only furniture was a few packing crates and a couple of Coleman lamps. Standing in line at a Honolulu cathouse or spending three hours soaking in a tub in Freemantle, smoking cigars, and getting loaded. It was our history. And we dreamed of being just like them because they were our heroes. When they accepted you as their shipmate, it was the highest honor you would ever receive in your life. At least it was clearly that for me. They were not men given to the prerogatives of their position.
You would find them with their sleeves rolled up, shoulder-to-shoulder with you in a stores loading party. "Hey Chief, no need for you to be out here tossin' crates in the rain, we can get all this crap aboard."
"Son, the term 'All hands' means all hands."
"Yeah Chief, but you're no damn kid anymore, you old coot."
"Horsefly, when I'm eighty-five parked in the stove up old bastards' home, I'll still be able to kick your worthless butt from here to fifty feet past the screw guards along with six of your closest friends." And he probably wasn't bulls**tting.
They trained us. Not only us, but hundreds more just like us. If it wasn't for Chief Petty Officers, there wouldn't be any U.S. Navy. There wasn't any fairy godmother who lived in a hollow tree in the enchanted forest who could wave her magic wand and create a Chief Petty Officer.
They were born as hot-sacking seamen, and matured like good whiskey in steel hulls over many years. Nothing a nineteen year-old jay-bird could cook up was original to these old saltwater owls. They had seen E-3 jerks come and go for so many years; they could read you like a book. "Son, I know what you are thinking. Just one word of advice. DON'T. It won't be worth it."
"Aye, Chief."
Chiefs aren't the kind of guys you thank. Monkeys at the zoo don't spend a lot of time thanking the guy who makes them do tricks for peanuts.
Appreciation of what they did, and who they were, comes with long distance retrospect. No young lad takes time to recognize the worth of his leadership. That comes later when you have experienced poor leadership or let's say, when you have the maturity to recognize what leaders should be, you find that Chiefs are the standard by which you measure all others.
They had no Academy rings to get scratched up. They butchered the King's English. They had become educated at the other end of an anchor chain from Copenhagen to Singapore . They had given their entire lives to the U.S. Navy. In the progression of the nobility of employment, Chief Petty Officer heads the list. So, when we ultimately get our final duty station assignments and we get to wherever the big Chief of Naval Operations in the sky assigns us, if we are lucky, Marines will be guarding the streets. I don't know about that Marine propaganda bulls**t, but there will be an old Chief in an oil-stained hat and a cigar stub clenched in his teeth standing at the brow to assign us our bunks and tell us where to stow our gear... and we will all be young again, and the damn coffee will float a rock.
Life fixes it so that by the time a stupid kid grows old enough and smart enough to recognize who he should have thanked along the way, he no longer can. If I could, I would thank my old Chiefs. If you only knew what you succeeded in pounding in this thick skull, you would be amazed. So, thanks you old casehardened unsalvageable son-of-a-bitches. Save me a rack in the berthing compartment."
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.

Park Dallis
Posted 2009-10-08 3:57 PM (#31404 - in reply to #31402)


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Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Another Bowdlerized DEX gem.
Ric
Posted 2009-10-08 4:17 PM (#31405 - in reply to #31402)


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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map.
Subject: Here's the original by Dex

http://www.olgoat.com/substuff/dex207.htm
Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-10-08 4:22 PM (#31406 - in reply to #31404)
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Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Could be, Park. I got it as a fwd email. Dex will be at our SS-408 Reunion next week in Myrtle Beach and I'll check it out with him.
crystal
Posted 2009-10-08 4:26 PM (#31407 - in reply to #31402)


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Location: Port Ludlow, WA (the Olympic Penninsula)
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew





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MAD DOG
Posted 2009-10-08 6:08 PM (#31409 - in reply to #31402)


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Location: Va.Beach,Va.
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

"You knew instinctively it had to be hell on earth to have been born a Chief's kid. God should have given all sons born to Chiefs a return option."

AMEN Ralph.I ARE one!

Good post Shipmate.
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Park,I thought I'd seen that somewhere before.Thanks Dex!



Edited by MAD DOG 2009-10-08 6:14 PM
Corabelle
Posted 2009-10-08 6:48 PM (#31411 - in reply to #31409)


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Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

"Horsefly" was the give-a-way!

Cora
BlackBeard
Posted 2009-10-08 8:37 PM (#31413 - in reply to #31402)


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Location: Inyokern, Ca.
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Can't be Dex, it has paragraphs!
It was a great read and bought back grand memories. (and yes, I know it probably was Dex...)

BB
Ric
Posted 2009-10-09 5:27 AM (#31418 - in reply to #31413)


Plankowner

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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map.
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

O'goat would "tidy" up Dexs' stuff and make readable. I have given up trying to read any of his long rambles if it beyond a normal paragraph length. I no longer have patience for trying to sort it out. I find it wearying. I have ask that he try being more considerate in his writing but it falls on deaf ears. So, if I open one of his posts and I get a one paragraph screen full I just move on.
Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-10-09 8:42 AM (#31419 - in reply to #31418)
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Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Ahhh you're just a crochity old bastard anyway. You're starting to show your age. Maybe it's because your hair has fallen in instead of falling out. )))))))Ping(((((((
Sewer Pipe Snipe
Posted 2009-10-09 5:17 PM (#31428 - in reply to #31402)
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Location: Albany, GA.
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Say Ralph, you wouldn't be trying to smooth over a West Coast Chief's feathers in hopes of a weekend pass would you? E-6's are crafty, coniving and cunning. That's why you have to be one before you make Chief. To get well founded in the basics.
Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-10-10 5:57 AM (#31451 - in reply to #31428)
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Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Who me? Smooth over feathers on "Wishbone"? Never happen Captn. It's too much fun pinging on that old worn out CPO. Besides, he knows he easy too reach. Ya know like, "ya can't get to me!"
When we get out to Seattle next year..we'll smoke the peace pipe and huncker down for a new and fresh volley of arrow slinging.
Crafty, coniving and cunning, E-6?? Why I Never!!!!!!!!!
MAD DOG
Posted 2009-10-10 7:18 AM (#31453 - in reply to #31451)


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Location: Va.Beach,Va.
Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

"Crafty, coniving and cunning, E-6?? Why I Never!!!!!!!!!"


I did!
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Bill Linne
Posted 2009-10-10 8:41 AM (#31457 - in reply to #31402)


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Subject: RE: CPO's that I knew

Does anyone have a copy of the cartoon where an apparently over-weight Chief is being examined and the pecker-checker says something like "Okay, let's have a look at that gut".  The Chief unbuttons his shirt and out rolls about two yards of manhood.

I have a special use for that cartoon at work, if I can find it.

Thanks,

Bill
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